[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
[lojban-beginners] Re: Syntax vs semantics for conjunctions
- To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
- Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Syntax vs semantics for conjunctions
- From: "Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:11:00 -0300
- Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r/9oT61k/A/P7wr+QMwJYJqMl+sGNS3BFBgaT14g1/+Io9xl1/QvThfb8DHYiOmSm1sBdvWOUUV56YAjU2wGjdLLo3VeDC71BGS/hGPd+WQqPnZi60BFnpv0aIfNyIoUrhx0pIlIqI/e5Sz8dRBN5/n0fRra3OCo8F/xeESiuHs=
- In-reply-to: <A48849B31C98424CBB31A5E6C7D091E6043A56C8@wobsem03.de.gedas-grp>
- References: <A48849B31C98424CBB31A5E6C7D091E6043A56C8@wobsem03.de.gedas-grp>
- Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
- Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org
On 7/5/06, Newton, Philip <Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de> wrote:
Does that mean that, for example {mi viska lo cukta .e lo xatra .e lo penbi}
is equivalent not only to {mi viska gege lo cukta gi lo xatra gi lo penbi}
(I think that's the equivalent parse) but also to {mi viska ge lo cukta gige
lo xatra gi lo penbi}?
For {.e} yes, because it is associative. For non-associative connectives,
for example {.o}, no.
This is actually different from the case of {ce}, because {.e} doesn't really
introduce any new entity the way {ce} does.
And is it possible to express the latter sentence
using {.e} but without {ge}?
Yes. Either {mi viska lo cukta .e ke lo xatra .e lo penbi}
or {mi viska lo cukta .e lo xatra .e bo lo penbi} will do that,
although in the case of {.e} this doesn't really change anything.
mu'o mi'e xorxes