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[lojban-beginners] Re: the articles "le" and "lo"



Hal Fulton wrote:
Michael Graff wrote:

What puzzles me are these correspondences:
definite <-> described as
indefinite <-> really is

That says in a nutshell something that has bothered
me subconsciously for a long time.

I don't think the people who answered you addressed
this specifically either (unless I overlooked it).

On top of that, I have never seen the need for the
distinction between "described as" and "really is."

Sometimes I may use metaphors or something; but in
general, when I "describe something as" a foobar,
I basically mean it "really is" a foobar.
Here is one example. (I am also beginner, and I was also bothered with le/lo distinction, so it is how I understand things. Also, forgive me unnaturalness of examples).[]

#1) _Rats_ are little creatures, it helps them to inhabit almost every building.
#2) Something felt loudly on a floor and _rat_ ran under the table.

In #1, I am not having in mind neither specific rat, not set of rat, I am just stating some property (smallness) of thing that is really rat.

The main difference to example #2 is that I have something in mind, and trying to _describe_ to listener it. (In this simple case humble author decided that description "rat" is enough).

Of course, most probably that rat in #2 is really a rat (because author, probably wishes the readers to understand him). But it is not a point.

PS Eww... I hope, my weak understanding, multiplied with bad knowledge of English will not confuse you more ^_^