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[lojban-beginners] Re: A learning idea..... and my own attempt to do it.
On 11/30/06, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
Why not do the first steps using jboselkei? Did you know that
jboselkei upgraded yesterday? It looks great and has some improvements
to the user interface.
http://www.teddyb.org/jsk/
Sorry, Matt, but jboselkei is unreliable as a learning tool as I see
it, and I'll tell you why. It's a game rather than a learning tool as
it is currently designed, and as such it forces both novices and
experienced lojbanists to review translations. This means that both
right and wrong reviews will get mixed up without any means to comment
and/or challenge the reviews. Anyone should have the opportunity to
post comments on any review and the translator should have the option
to challenge the review while explaining why is he/she doing the
challenging. Since jboselkei in it's current form does not provide for
this, then it mixes up right and wrong reviews indiscriminately,
making it an unreliable source of learning material.
What if the next upgrade to Jboselkei allowed the user to upload an
mp3 file of the Lojban translation?
That would be an excellent idea, but an audio file should also be
reviewed/commented on so the problem given above does not get repeated
on the audio files. Badly pronounced audio files could be mixed up
with good ones.
I began some time ago to use jboselkei thinking that it could be a
good learning tool. I was disappointed with it, so I stopped using it.
Right then, it was said at the list that such way of posting comments
on reviews should be a feature to be added on a future upgrade. Since
I regarded such an implementation to be top priority over anything
else, I went eagerly to see what changes were made. Boy, I was so
disappointed. The looks and feel of the game seemed to be top priority
rather than improving it's usefulness as a learning tool. As of now,
the list is the most realiable way to do what I suggested on my first
post on this subject.