[lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down

["Turniansky, Michael" <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com>]

   No, no..  ti'u IS two syllables, and this word in question is
accented on TI.  As for "two-sllables cmavo" not being allowed, I;m not
sure where you got that idea.  From Chapter 4 of the grammar:
"There is no particular stress required in cmavo or their compounds.
Some conventions do exist that are not mandatory. For two-syllable
cmavo, for example, stress is typically placed on the first vowel"
             --Mike T.



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[mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Alex Martini
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:41 AM
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down


On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Elmo Todurov wrote:

> On 17:06 Tue 23 Jan     , Alex Martini wrote:
>> Is this the right stressing of {noltruti'u}? I expected {nol-TRU-
>> ti'u} as three Lojban syllables, since I was under the impression
>> that .y'y doesn't make a syllable break.
> noltruTI'u is the correct pronounciation. y isn't counted as a  
> vowel for
> syllable-making purposes (like the word, banlydau (ignore the meaning,
> it's just for illustration) is pronounced BANlydau).
>
> Elmo
If I count .y'y as a syllable break, I get {nol-tru-TI-hu} as the  
second to last, but if I don't I get {nol-TRU-tihu} as second to last  
using h for .y'y since it's easier to see as syllable initial. Which  
seems to be the opposite of what you're saying.

{ti'u} counts, as far as I know, all as one syllable since y'y is not  
a syllable break. If it were, then cmavo like {ba'o} would be two  
syllables which isn't allowed.

I think I might have confused you a little, because I wasn't talking  
about .ybu at all. It's the apostrophe I meant, not the letter y.

mu'o mi'e .aleks.