[lojban-beginners] Re: Nouns and verbs (was: learning lojban)

["Turniansky, Michael" <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com>]

  I'm not sure why you assert a brivla is a verb.  You assert we can say
"le mlatu cu blabi" or '"e blabi cu mlatu" because "they are both ...
verbs"  Please show me another language where verbs can do what you
describe (be exchanged).  They can do that because they are predicate
relationships, not verbs.  Verbs are action or state-of-being words.
"le mlatu" is the subject of the sentence, therefore mlatu is
functioning as a noun, not a verb, in that sentence.

  And while it is true that you cannot say lai galtu cu .alp.  You CAN
say "lai galtu cu me la .alp"  But I will grant you that you are right,
cmene are proper nouns, although not commons nouns (which are brivla,
when used as such).


                     --gejyspa


-----Original Message-----
From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org
[mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Abbat
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:52 PM
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Nouns and verbs (was: learning lojban)

On Thursday 01 March 2007 16:33, Karl Naylor wrote:
> On 01/03/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > There are nouns and verbs in Lojban, and also conjunctions,
prepositions,
>
> Could you give examples of nouns and verbs?  I'm not sure what you're
> referring to.

A brivla is a verb (whether its translation in any other language is a
verb) 
and a cmene is a noun. We can say {le mlatu cu blabi} or equally well
{le 
blabi cu mlatu}, because they're both verbs (i.e. brivla). In English
"the 
cat is white", "cat" is a noun and "white" is an adjective, so you can't

exchange them and say "the white is cat". In {lai .alp. cu galtu}, {alp}
and 
{galtu} are different parts of speech; you can't exchange them and say
{lai 
galtu cu .alp}.

phma