[lojban-beginners] Re: lojban-beginners Digest V6 #30

[Alex Martini <alexjm@umich.edu>]

On Mar 2, 2007, at 10:16 AM, der Mouse wrote:

> > I would argue that there are adjectives and adverbs in Lojban, at
> > least in the traditional linguistic sense.  When I say {le xekri
> > mlatu} for "the black cat", {mlatu} is a noun and {xekri} is
> > modifying it - making it an adjective.
>
> I call malglico.
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This is why we don't use natural language terms to describe
Lojban. Because the concept of "noun" and "verb" doesn't really apply
to Lojban. Just look at all the confusion it's caused on the list :)

What I was trying to say (and apparently didn't express well)
was that, in an audio CD course, it would be easier to learn the Lojban
terminology a little at a time after teaching some phrases and  
vocabulary.
That way you can say "Ok -- in the sentence you know {le mlatu cu klama}
we call {le mlatu} a sumti, and {klama} a brivla. And both {mlatu}  
and {klama}
are gismu so they can be used as both 'nouns' and 'verbs' in the natural
language sense."

This is opposite how most of the material I've learned Lojban from  
works --
we usually try to teach a bunch of the names for Lojban "parts of  
speech"
first so we can use them as we describe the basics of Lojban.

mu'o mi'e .aleks.