[lojban-beginners] Re: Now what?

[ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com>]

What on earth is Dot Side?  I can't find the proposal
anywhere - only some commentaries about it.

- Andrew


--- Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
> 
> There are projects underway to create a primer,
> sample dialogues, and
> audio lessons. I will certainly ask for official
> approval of them when
> they come together, but volunteer organizations are
> slow. Constructed
> languages are different from naturally-occuring
> languages. There will
> always be a frontier for Lojban within the lifetimes
> of you and me. It
> is unrealistic to ask that to change within the
> amount of time it
> would take you to learn it. It is a matter of
> accepting constructed
> languages for what they are.
> 
> Ask yourself how much an unsettled area of the
> language will affect
> your ability to communicate in it. We do have plans
> to formally settle
> discrepancies and map remaining frontiers of
> uncertainty; but
> experience has shown that they do not signifigantly
> impair us, to say
> nothing of spoiling the project.
> 
> The plain fact is that the discrepancies in the
> training materials,
> while we certainly need to correct them urgently,
> are discrepancies in
> formality only. The xorlo proposal has won in all
> practical respects,
> de-facto, and awaits only the slow process of asking
> for a formal
> vote. In practice, Lojbanists have gone over to it
> wholesale. You
> should use it. The Dot Side is rapidly getting there
> as well.
> 
> >   Xorxes and rlpowell are the experts who most
> frequent this list, but
> > as you have seen, even they disagree with one
> another....
> 
> All experts on Lojban will disagree with each other,
> and always will,
> just as experts on English sometimes disagree with
> each other on the
> minutiae of perfect propriety.
> 
> I also highly respect the proficiency of Adam Cooper
> (komfo,amonan),
> Pierre Abbat, and John Cowan (author of CLL) to name
> just a few off
> the top of my head. Apologies to those worthies who
> I am no doubt
> leaving off the list. There are several highly
> fluent experts who are
> no longer active at all, such as Nick Nicholas.
> Lojbab and Nora (two
> of the founders) participate occasionally but
> rarely.
> 
> -Eppcott
> 
> 
> 
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