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[lojban-beginners] Re: leaving a sumti out



Would ".i le dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi" be equally observative as ".i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi"?




On 5/18/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:

  Took me a while to find your reference.  Not Chapter 9, but Chapter 5 section 9.  But yes, "la djan" need not be repeated. in "go'i troci"

As to "ko lebna ta .i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi", No.  That does not say what you want it to say.  That says, "Take that thing.  Someone gives me a new wine bottle". (or, more literally, "A giver of a new wine bottle to me!")  That doesn't imply you should do it.  It becomes an observative, not a command.

 

                --gejyspa

 

 

 


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Subject: [lojban-beginners] leaving a sumti out

 

A sentence from Lojban Reference Grammar Chapter9:

la djan. klama le zarci .i la djan. go'i troci

Can "la djan" in the second sentence be left out since "go'i" should imply all sumti related to the selbri of the last sentence?

Also, can a repeating "ko" be left out, without connecting the selbri with "gi'e"?
That is, is

ko lebna ta .i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi

instead of

ko lebna ta .i ko dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi

possible? Or would that "dunda" without "ko" loose the intended imperative sense?