[lojban-beginners] Re: consonant doubling?

[m.kornig@sondal.net]

Selon Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

> On 6/18/07, m.kornig@sondal.net <m.kornig@sondal.net> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I knew about voiced-unvoiced clusters. But I
> > didn't know about {sc} and {zj}. I can pronounce
> > both of them (even stand-alone, i.e. without a
> > vowel). Why would you want to exclude these
> > sounds?
>
> I wouldn't want to, but they were excluded by the designers.
>
> Those are not so bad, because they at least follow some reasonable
> rule. I find the exclusion of {mz}, {cx}, {xc}, {kx} and {xk} more arbitrary
> and unreasonable.
>
> > Where can I find a complete list of consonants
> > clustes that are prohibited? Or, if the
> > list is very long, the complete set of rules for
> > consonants clusters?
>
> It's in the reference grammar, chapter 3, section 6:
> <http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=195>

Thanks for all that information, Jorge. Especially
for the link to the reference grammar ;-)

With respect to consonant clusters, Lojban seems
to be rather complicated (and somewhat arbitrary).
Fortunately, beginners don't really need to know
all this. In most cases...

I can only think of one thing beginners may want
to do and may need "a bigger picture" for:
Lojbanizing their own name! This can be quite
difficult, I think. Maybe, it's a good idea not
to tell beginners that something like Lojbanizing
of names exists.

Martin