[lojban-beginners] Re: I'm... My name's...

["Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com>]

  No, he did mean "is grammatical for no obvious reason".  Sentences can
start with bare cmene, but what they actually mean when they have them
is not necessarily defined (as I understand it).  So, "tim. cmene mi"
means soemthing like, "Tim.  Something is my name"  But what that Tim
means there is a good question.  Some random noise you made....

          --gejyspa


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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I'm... My name's...

Selon Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>:

> On Monday 25 June 2007 15:10, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a difference in meaning between
> > the two sentences {mi'e tim.} and {tim.
> > cmene mi}? Are they both correct? Both
> > used?
>
> {tim. cmene mi} is grammatical for no obvious reason;

Pierre, I guess you mean "is not grammatical", don't you?

> a bare cmene has no
> clear meaning,

You can say {mi'e tim.} and {coi tim.} and {co'o tim} though,
can't you?

In these examples the cmene would be "bare", i.e. there are no
articles. Still these sentences seem to have a clear meaning.

Martin