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[lojban-beginners] Re: double letters
On 7/18/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 10:09, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> That would give a list of infinite valid onsets. Again, one can restrict it
> by common sense, but I prefer a concrete rule because common sense
> for these things is too dependent on one's linguistic background.
> (You don't really need the additional "ntc" restriction there because "nt"
> is not a valid initial.)
A syllable can end with "n", in which case the following syllable cannot begin
with "nt".
No syllable can ever begin with "nt", because "nt" is not a valid initial.
What I meant was that if your rule is "an onset can be any string of
consonants each pair of which is a valid initial pair", then you allow
syllables such as "tctctctctc.....tctctca" because each pair is a valid
initial pair.
My rule excludes tc, ts, dj and dz from participating in any further clusters.
> {xios,kia,mo}, purely as a string of syllables, would be allowed in my
> scheme, while {skia,mo} wouldn't.
>
> (The morphological issues concerning tosmabru and slinku'i, that involve
> rafsi, have to be considered separately.)
The problem with {xioskiamo} is whether {xio} breaks off, even though there
are no actual cmavo of the form "CiV" or "CuV". I say it does, and consider
{xioskiamo} invalid. vlatai considers it valid.
{xio} would break off only if {skiamo} was a valid word, but since {skiamo} is
not a valid word, it doesn't. Similarly {xioslinku'i} is valid because
{slinku'i} is
not valid, and {xioski} is valid because {ski} is not a valid word.
mu'o mi'e xorxes