[lojban-beginners] Re: mo'i ni'a

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 7/29/07, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   as he descended the hill, a sadness came upon him
>   mo'i ni'a lo nu badri cu cfari

> Isn't a
> terminator like { ku } needed here after that pair of tenses so that a
> grammatical room for the elided sumti { le cmana } "the hill" is
> preserved instead of being overlapped with { lo nu badri }?

Yes.

> Since this instance of { mo'i ni'a } is directly followed by the sumti
> { lo nu badri } and therefore identical to the structure of { mo'i
> ti'a le barja }, I tend to read it as something like "as he went under
> the state of sadness, [something unspecified] began".

But where does the "he" that goes under the state of sadness
comes from? It's the beginning of the something unspecified that
would be moving under that state.

I don't remember ever seeing any convincing use of {mo'i} yet.
With selbri that indicate movement, it is not needed, and with
selbri that don't indicate movement, such as {cfari}, it normally
makes little or no sense.

I suggest something like:

   ko'a ca lo nu nitcpare le cmana cu co'a lifri lo nu badri

mu'o mi'e xorxes