[lojban-beginners] Re: le vinji vs lo vinji

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 8/14/07, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/13/07, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If the child wanted to say, for example, "I like theme parks with airplanes", then the correct choice would be {lo}, because he would not have any particular airplanes in mind.
>
> Even if what he wanted to refer to did not really fit for the place
> structure of {vinji}?

No, the extended sense should fit the place structure. That's why
I have problems with the overspecific place structures given to
some gismu.

> I mean, what if the child asked someone about
> this "airplane": {fi mo seljakne cu ba vinji ti mi}?

(You need {lo} there: {lo mo seljakne})

.i la'a lo te vinji cu dikca gi'e nai se jakne


> Can that plate also be saying {fi'i ko se vinji ti}, while it cannot
> be more specific like {fi'i ko se vinji ti lo banli seljakne} since
> there isn't such a thing which really propells the ride into the sky?

I'm not sure what kind of ride you have in mind, but it might be:

   fi'i do'u ko se vinji ti lo banli vraga

mu'o mi'e xorxes