Re: [lojban-beginners] mluni and lunra

[tijlan <jbotijlan@googlemail.com>]

On 15 March 2010 05:22, moorkids@juno.com <moorkids@juno.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondering ...
>
> Why are both mluni and lunra necessary?
>
> mluni: x1 is a satellite/moon orbiting x2 with characteristics x3, orbital parameters x4
> lunra: x1 is a major natural satellite/moon of planet x2; x1 is Earth's moon [default]
>
> The only difference (I notice) between the x1 and x2 of both is lunra is a natural satellite where mluni is any satellite (natural or unnatural).  Other than that mluni just seems to expand upon lunra.  Is the only purpose for lunra is to specify the "natural" of the satellite (couldn't that be specified in mluni's x3?) and to serve as a default for our moon?
>
> Just something kinda strange I was wondering about. : )

"lunra" is technically redundant, since a natural satellite can be
expressed as "rarmluni" (rarna-mluni), the Earth's moon as "tedmluni"
(terdi-mluni); and "lunra" has no unique sumti place compared to
"mluni". It's like "nixli" (girl) and "nanla" (boy), which can be
expressed as "fetci'o/fetyve'a" and "nakci'o/nakyve'a" respectively;
and "-ve'a" from "verba" has the same pattern of place structure as
"nixli/nanla", so these two specific gismu don't really offer much of
anything semantic-wise.


mu'o mi'e tijlan