Sorry I didn't get in on this; been busy with other stuff, as I'm
sure you've noticed.
I changed "lo gasnu" to "a causer", because the important thing
about gasnu is that it's agentive. I'd like to make "lo se gasnu"
into "something caused by an agent", but the edit screen won't come
up for that.
Sure is nice to have the search; too bad it's such a giant hog; I
can only make it work reliably in FF.
-Robin
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On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 12:06:35PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I was finally able to fix this. Took forever and three days, but it's good
> now. I used your suggestion for {lo te rinka}, by the way.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Robin, has this problem been fixed, or are you having the same problems
> > loading the edit page I am?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've got no problems with that. The only "pattern" on Smart.fm is that
> >> every entry contains the gismu's keyword. So {lo se klama}, for example, is
> >> "a destination gone to", as opposed to merely "a destination".
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:15 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perhaps "an effect caused" (lo se rinka) matches some general pattern on
> >>> smart.fm, but it seems it would be more normal as "a caused effect".
> >>>
> >>> stevo
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Okay, so I'm completely unable to make the changes myself. I just
> >>>> spent 1:20 waiting for Smart.fm to load, and it never got past 61%. However,
> >>>> after looking at the full definitions of gunka and rinka as they are in the
> >>>> gismu list, this is my decision regarding the duplication:
> >>>>
> >>>> Gunka to be left as is.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rinka:
> >>>> rinka - x1 causes effect x2 under conditions x3
> >>>> lo rinka - an effect's cause
> >>>> lo se rinka - an effect caused
> >>>> lo te rinka - a condition of an effect
> >>>> Unless anyone has a better idea, someone (,this probably means Robin,)
> >>>> will make the above change at some point in the hopefully not-too-distant
> >>>> future. Would that I could do it, this would already have happened.
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Good job finding that duplication. I'll take a look.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/1/10, Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
> >>>>> > Heya,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I didn't feel like I should just go ahead and edit items by myself,
> >>>>> so I
> >>>>> > decided to ask first.
> >>>>> > lo rinka - a cause
> >>>>> > lo gasnu - a cause
> >>>>> > lo se rinka - something caused
> >>>>> > lo se gasnu - something caused
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > i'd say lo gasnu should become "a causer" (not an agent, that would
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> > lo zukte) and lo se gasnu could become "something brought about" (as
> >>>>> > vensa suggested).
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thoughts?
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