On 8/22/2016 1:27 PM, gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com wrote:
Em segunda-feira, 22 de agosto de 2016 12:45:16 UTC+3, la uakci escreveu:
Nah, I'm doing it for 1 year and I feel very close to fluency. *sei
tolcumla*
Nope. la uakci learnt it in just 4 months to kinda fluency (vague term
but who asks for standardized test?). Proved by logs.
Nick Nicolas in 1991 spent only a weekend reading everything we had then (long before CLL was written), and was writing better translations than anyone else up to that point almost immediately. He wasn't yet "fluent", but I suspect that many of his translations still stand up 25 years later (at least if one corrects for the rafsi changes, since most of those translations predate the rafsi reassignment and other baselining efforts in the 1992-1994 timeframe.
Nick had considerable experience in learning languages, which certainly made a difference. But the bottom line is that young kids learn languages almost automatically; adults have to work at it. But if you do work at it, and are willing to accept a period of making lots of mistakes and learning from them, pretty much anyone can gain competency.
(I myself am NOT a good language learner, and will probably never speak Lojban fluently - I'm past 60 years old - but I still was able to muddle through a conversation and could translate a text with word lookup capability handy (but when I was actively conversing, I generally did NOT stop to look up gismu - I made mistakes and learned from people failing to understand me.)
lojbab
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