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Re: [lojban] I like chocolate



In a message dated 8/19/2002 9:48:04 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

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>     {mi nelci lezu'o citka loi cakla}
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>Suggestions, corrections?

The article {le} indicates that you liked one particular
occasion (or each of the particular occasions you have in
mind) of eating chocolate. To say that you like eating
chocolate generically, I would suggest {lo'e} instead of
{le}.  (Nobody pays much attention to this though, we often
use {le nu} to refer to generic events rather than particular
ones.) Also you can say {mi nelci lo'e cakla} directly.

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Only if you are xorxes; the rest of us have to stick to the formal rules, which don't allow direct references to dubious objects in places that call for abstract arguments.  Happily, {nelci} allows both abstract and concrete references in this place, so the range of possibilities is open.  Presumably, your interest is not just in a particular piece, nor in some unspecified piece(s), so neither {le} nor {lo} (nor, probably {loi}) fits in.  {lo'e} won't work if it means "typical" or "average" or some such, since the point is that you typically eat chocolate with pleasure, not that you necessary always (or right now or....) eat typical chocolate with pleasure (average chocolate is, well, average, and so might not be so pleasurable, typical might be worse).  On the whole, moving off into the intensional seems the right thing to do (and what xorxes would have {lo'e} do, usually). 

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