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Re: [lojban] I like chocolate



In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:39:15 PM Central Daylight Time, xod@thestonecutters.net writes:

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pe'i le ralju be lo'i selstidi zo'u lu mi nelci le li'i mi citka lo/loi
cakla li'u

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Yeah, grammar aside, I agree that it is an important suggestion, maybe even a right one.  We probably need to do more with {li'i}, since it is often not the event but our subjective participation in it that we deal with (see the stuff about remembering around here somewhere).

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.i pamai le selfri poi na cuntu do cu smuni tu'a zo zu'o
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The activity abstractor marks events that are cyclic (repetition of similar events indefinitely), that go on for a time but do not take time, and [damn, I can't remember the other bit]. I don't see how the experienced event that is none of you business is a meaning for it. I suppose you mean the internal, personal, subjective experience of the event, but am not sure about even that, nor of a better way to say  it (except it seems to require {lifri}).

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.i remai lo broda zo'u dunli lu lo broda li'u lu loi broda li'u le ka
smuni ce'u .i lo cakla po'onai cu broda
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Yes, the two expressions are equally meaningful, though they don't mean the same thing (though what that has to do with some broda, I am not sure).  And,  yes, this is true of other things than chocolate.

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.i romai .o'unai frili jimpe fi le do jufra
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I am not sure why this is stressful, it sems pretty non-threatening.  I assume that what is easy to understand about the sentence is what it means -- and maybe how it is put together?

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Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike
on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act
of terrorism.  Why would that event change the situation?
                      -- Howard Zinn
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Presumably by providing a cover that those who wanted to attack Iraq already (and save Daddy's reputation) could use as justification -- if played right.  So far it seems to have had mixed results, but this is an election year.


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