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Re: [lojban] Re: Translation request



On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 02:13:09AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> la djorden cusku di'e
> 
> >I think you're confusing your connectives.  Logical connectives
> >are always expandable:
> >   ko'a broda je brode == ko'a broda gi'e brode == ko'a broda .ije ko'a 
> >brode
> 
> Well... No argument about the second equivalence, but the Book
> does not sanction the first one (pg. 349).
> 
> I read {sampu je tolkargu traji} as {traji le ka sampu je tolkargu},
> and even if you expand that to {traji le ka sampu gi'e tolkargu}, it
> won't expand any further.
> 
> There are no fast rules about tanru, so you could I suppose
> interpret it as {sampu traji gi'e tolkargu traji}, but I find the
> other expansion more natural.

Ahh i see.  The hard-and-fast expansion rules only apply to sumti
it seems?  So then the tanru could be interpreted either way (as
tanru are wont to be).  So {traji leka sampu .e leka tolkargu}.
Though I think if someone wanted the meaning you're suggesting it'd
still be better to use a nonlogical connective like jo'u (or maybe
joi?).

-- 
Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
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                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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