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Re: [lojban] paroi ro mentu



In a message dated 9/26/2002 6:01:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

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       le plini cu mulcarna paroi ro mentu

1- Is {mulcarna} good for "x1 makes a full turn around x2
in direction x3"?

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I tend to see what something takes a turn around as a center rather than an axis, which {carna} seems to require -- is this a legitimate extension? 

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2- The problem with {paroi ro mentu} is that the quantifiers
are in the wrong order. The alternative {ro da poi mentu zo'u
le plini cu mulcarna paroi da} is too longwinded and requires
forethought. Any ideas?
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Why doesn't this mean "the planet makes a full turn around all minutes once,"  i.e., why isn't {ro mentu} x2?  {paroi} seems to be a free modifier so has at most rhetorical effect on its neighbors and there is nothing in CLL or the cmavo list to suggest that {PAroi} takes a sumti to indicate the span within which the repetitions are counted (though maybe it should). 
Maybe something like {ca ro mentu le plini paroi mulcarna}, though I'd be happier with something more intervally than {ca} -- can {ze'e} be used in that way (there used to be something like {ci'a}, but that may be all th way back to Loglan.

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