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In a message dated 9/27/2002 1:50:08 PM Central Daylight Time, xod@thestonecutters.net writes: << This ni-like usage of ka, which of course is completely redundant with >> Let's see. 1). The {ni}-like {ka} is not redundant given {ni} since the qualitymof anything is different from its quantity: "like the sky" is different from "very intense" (meant quantitatively -- hrd to separate in English). 2) 11.5.4&5 are both about the functions to values, not about the values themselves, presumably "x is so blue" in the two different senses. 3) Whatever is going on there, it is not indexed at {ka} . 4) The truth of a propsition is not the same as its intensity, despite the parody one often sees of fuzzy logics -- e.g., the truth of "Joe is tall" eventually (around 6') reaches pure True, the quantity keeps going (though it also may not, since it is not the same as hw tall Joe is -- or the amount of blue pigment) We don't know very well how to handle these various notions, since English -- and most other familiar languages -- don't use them much. That does not mean they all collapse into something we do sorta know how to use. (It does mean that they were -- on Zipfean grounds given way the wrong words, but that is another matter entirely -- having to do with what someone tought they meant way back when.) To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |