In a message dated 10/2/2002 9:58:11 AM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes: << I don't see how cmalu is more/less comparative/measured. They both >> I was reading off the gismu chart, which has {cmalu} as "compared to standard/norm x3," where {tordu} has "by measurement standard x3." I think these two notions are intertranslatable -- if different at all . So, yes, the dimensionality is probably the main thing. << > Why {tu'a}? Why not? >> {tu'a} presupposes and environment where an abstraction clause s likely to occur and replaces that abstraction by a sumti from within. What is the abstaction generating environment here. This is just curiosity, by the way; not complaint. xorxes << tordu: ko'a cmalu ko'e noi ralju pamoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i jarki: ko'a cmalu ko'e noi ralju remoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i cinla: ko'a cmalu ko'e noi ralju romoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i clani: ko'a barda ko'e noi ralju pamoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i ganra: ko'a barda ko'e noi ralju remoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i rotsu: ko'a barda ko'e noi ralju romoi cimde ko'a ku'o ko'i >> Thanks. I would tend to say {pamoi ralju} but am open to arguments on that -- different underlying idions, I suspect (and mine probably English and not Lojbanically defensible). And I would use {cimoi} rather than {romoi} just because I don't want to prejudge issues of possible dimensionality (I can see someone young being small in the temporal dimension, for example).
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