On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:56:53AM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/7/2002 8:06:01 PM Central Daylight Time, > lojban-out@lojban.org writes: > << > > Ok; I agree that there is a gramatical difference, but not that > > there is a real semantic difference (except perhaps in which part > > of the claim is more important (the fact you are happy, or whatever > > the other claim is))... > >> > Nope. {ui [bridi]} is true or false depending on [bridi], and goes the same > way. If you are not, in fact, happy, you may be misleading but you haven't > said anything false. > {mi gleki lenu [bridi]} is true or false depending upon your attitude (happy > or not) about the event of [bridi]. Typically, it would also be false if > that event did not occur, but this is deputable. But certainly the mere fact > that the event did occur would not make {mi gleki...} true. It wouldn't be false if the event didn't occur because it uses "le". I agree that the "pure emotion indicators" don't affect truth value... This does *not* count as a real semantic difference. If this is all you have, I don't see how you are justifed in calling it the "original malglico". -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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