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Re: <minor grumble> tirna .e pencu .e sumne .e viska .enai vrusi



On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:36:47PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> la camgusmis cusku di'e
> >Why are all the sense words except vrusi agentive?
> 
> Ah, you're discovering the joys of the gi'uste irregularities!
> 
> {vrusi} belongs to another series:

There's more than one irregularity here:  tirna3 is ... err ...
lame.  And viska3 is ... lame.  Of course, {snaga'e} and {jviga'e}
are usable for a regular structure, no?

I think the real problem here is that a keyword like "taste" can
give the wrong impression.  Unlike "sound" and "to hear", "taste"
in english can mean both.

> sance  -  tirna
> tengu  -  te'urga'e
> panci  -  sumne
> jvinu  -  viska
> vrusi  -  vu'irga'e

Someone outta put these into learning materials somewhere.  ;P
For structures which all match in the right column we can also
have:
  sance  -  snaga'e
  tengu  -  tegyga'e
  panci  -  panga'e
  jvinu  -  vinga'e
  vrusi  -  vusyga'e

Of course; the gismu which fill some of your right-hand column are
still useful for their rafsi.

Regarding the structure:

  .i pe'ipei zo vu'irga'e zo'u ko'a ganse ko'e noi se vrusi ko'i

Maybe with a ko'o ko'u for ganse3-4; but I'd rather elim. it as an
irrelevant place (ji'a you can get them with {ta'i} and {va'o}).

> I'm not sure {pencu} really belongs there.

I agree; it's the same keyword thing again too.
*mumbles about how we need more definition info for gismu*

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Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
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