On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:15:54PM +0200, Robin Turner wrote: > And Rosta wrote: > >Jordan: > > >I don't think *anyone* has supported your "'Loglan' is the english > > >word for 'lojban'" crap (excepting you). > > > > > >Anyway; if you really want to abuse meta tags so badly, how about > > >you put up your own lojban site? No one is stopping you... > > > >Steven is advocating what he thinks is best for Lojban, and best for > >official > >LLG policy, not what he thinks is best for him. He is clearly not speaking > >out of a yen to abuse meta tags. The list would be a happier place if you > >respected that his intentions are honourable, and replied simply that > >"your idea has been considered inappropriate for the following reasons... > >and this is why it hasn't won support". I think he *is* speaking out of a yen to abuse meta tags (though certainly he wouldn't consider it abuse). He's not satisfied with them either---he wants the <title> tag changed to try to fool search engines. Furthermore I doubt that he is actually speaking out of what he thinks is "best for lojban"---the whole "LLG Loglan" thing is essentially trolling, designed to piss people off and nothing else. It's quite incredible really. Anyway, I was just pointing out that *nobody* supports his position (or if they do they haven't said it), and that lojban.org does not have a monopoly on Lojban web pages. > >I have a sense that the atmosphere of the list is a little less collegial > >than it used to be, and that insults and adhominems are becoming more > >common. > > > > It was pretty vituperous about six years ago, if I remember rightly. > There were just fewer people around to vituperate, and the vituperations > tended to be about more obscure issues. > > I agree that a little more politeness is in order. Perhaps we could > agree that all insulting messages should be posted in Lojban. If > nothing else it would be more amusing: .u'i I don't feel I was being insulting in this particlar message, though. Or rather, I don't feel it was out of proportion to the tone of this thread. > le do mamta cu nalrebysmacu .ije le do patfu se steci le panci pei jbari > .i mi carna gi'e sputu fo do > > (sorry, I'm not up to coining a lujvo/fu'ivla for "elderberry" at the > moment, nor to rendering "in your general direction") -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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