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larger brodV - what do you think
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- Subject: larger brodV - what do you think
- From: Oleg Leschov <kalmas@udm.ru>
- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:48:13 +0500
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Sometimes in engeneering practice (especially in software engineering),
when designing some complex abstract system, there is a need to
introduce new terms that would have concrete meaning in this system and
are needed to be referenced frequently. I might preciecely define their
semantical meaning using some common terms, or other specific terms like
that. These terms may also be called "semantical macros", perhaps. So
the point is, that it would be beneficial to give them some shorter and
more sounding ids than "the thing described here and there", perhaps a
whole new word or phrase, and to use it in any further work on the same
subject.
Of cause, I could just introduce a new terminology, but that might
contradict (collide) with some already existing one, and so I would have
to care for unambiguity in the text.
So the idea is to create some entirely new and comparably short words
for things I need, and maybe even later morph them by the lojban
compound words creation rules. However, the words created for specific
documents need not to be able to be found in all-time official lojban
dictionary some day - they should have their meaning then and only then
when the context somehow contains the document or a system that they
were defined in (for).
This means that they are a kind of "variables" (brodV and others) that
lojban already has. Unlike these, however, the terms should be more
sounding, and it should be possible to combine them by the rules of
lojban morphology. Also, their possible meaning should not be limited to
1-place brivla - predicate of any valid number of places should be
definable (using some general kind of description, perhaps).
So I could just take any lojbanly-legal word as gismu for my new term
and use that. But of cause this approach I do not like, for in the
future, this particular gismu or their combination might acquire some
completely different meaning.
So what would I like to have is large enough "name space" the words from
which could be used to represent local terminology, and which maybe
could also be used generally, in case if speaker prefers them to things
like "broda, by, my, ny" and the like.
Any thoughts? Are there any possible yet unused namespaces that could be
forever assigned the special meaning - no meaning outside of any valid
context, not breaking existing lojban syntax?
By namespaces I mean things like CCVCV + CVCCV - they are now gismu with
universal meaning... Another example is existing brodV - this looks like
a namespace I am talking about, but it is somewhat small for this task.
There should be at least a couple of hundreds of words in it IMHO, that
should be vocally broad (I mean, using all lojban sounds) so that the
text that relies on them alot would look and sound nice.
Note that I am myself not too competent in lojban yet because I've
discovered it on the net somewhat recently (and hence I didn't propose
any specific solution yet). So I think this language has quite a
potential for technical and abstract definitions, and thus it could
benefit from such a linguistic device.