Re: [lojban] Re: da pe le tanru

[Llu'is Batlle i Rossell <viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net>]

On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 02:28:38PM -0700, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> 
> la liuIs cusku di'e
> 
> > .u'u mi ba citka pa le mupli
> 
> i zo'o a'o le mupli do kukte

i u'iui mi pu djica cusku zo ciska

> 
> > i zo sanmi ponse re lo te sumti
> > i xu lu midju sanmi li'u ponse lo te sumti pe zo sanmi
> > (to mi catavla fi lo tanru toi) ?
> 
> i go'i 

je'e
> 
> > i mi pu viska lo lujvo poi ponse <more sumti places than the ones related to
> > the
> > main gismu of the lujvo>.
> > 
> > I'm not good enough in lojban to express my problem.... :)
> > I don't understand why "mijysai" has more sumti places than the ones related
> > to
> > sanmi. What rules that?
> > Do that happen to tanru?
> 
> A tanru has the place structure of its tertau, but lujvo are different.
> The place structure of lujvo cannot be obtained unambiguously from the
> place structures of its components. There are guiding principles, but
> no strict rules. In general, it is preferrable to account for every 
> place of every component. Sometimes places from more than one component
> come together into one place. Sometimes a place of one component is
> "filled" by the place of another component so that both disappear from
> the resulting lujvo: for example {mampa'u} means "x1 is the maternal
> grandfather of x2". The x2 of patfu is filled with the x1 of mamta
> and that place disappears, leaving only the x1 of patfu and the x2
> of mamta in the final place structure. 
> 

Mmmmm ok. Well, the example you've given is so hard (about who's the mother, the
father, the father of who, mother of who....).

-- 
 "... el quid de la qüestió està en l'educació: en la filosofia didàctica,
  l'opció ignorància hauria d'existir: tu què vols ser? Jo, enginyer; jo, metge;
  jo, ignorant: és a dir, vull aprendre a viure però no vull saber-ho tot."
     -- Pau Riba, entrevista a "Paper de Vidre", núm. 5