Re: [lojban] Re: Language creation

[Llu'is Batlle i Rossell <viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net>]

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:05:01PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> Llu'is Batlle i Rossell scripsit:
> 
> > As far as I know, "'" isn't a consonant like others in lojban alphabet. It's
> > more like something helpful for joining vowels. Something like "y" for joining
> > consonants. It has a sound associated, but that sound isn't as strong as a "x"
> > or a "c" (or any other letter :).
> 
> Exactly.
I think a Spanish or a Catalan may have problems distinguishing "x" from "'".
English uses the "'" sound a lot, and many Spanish (English Learners) tend to
use "x" when speaking English.

> > I'm lucky, because Catalan has almost all lojban phonemes, and each letter has
> > a fixed sound (something like Spanish). I think it's easy for me to read or say
> > anything in lojban.
> 
> It's important not to alter the quality of unstressed vowels in Lojban; Lojban
> vowels should be consistent whether stressed or unstressed (so in Spanish,
> but not so in Catalan from what I understand).
You're right; we specially do the same as in Russian with 'o' and 'a'. But most
catalan speakers are very used to speak in Spanish. I certainly read 'lojban' as
if I was reading a strange 'Spanish'; that's because I did thought about the
unstressed vowels consistency.
Hummmm some days ago I sent a message to the list about a reading of the first
lines of 'tiki tiki tembos'. I'd pleased if I could receive any comment about my
way of reading.

Thanks!

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