Re: [lojban] Re: lluis's pronunciation

[John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>]

Llu'is Batlle i Rossell scripsit:

> Anyway... I don't read any "se cmene" or "te smuni". I read "te cmene" and "se
> smuni". :)

Right, that's what I meant to write.

> About "smuni" and "zmuni", it's hard for me to pronounce a non-sounding
> consonant before a sounding consonant (soi vo'a). Languages like Catalan or
> Russian have rules for that... for example, a final sounding consonant is
> converted to the non-sounding equivalent (d to t, g to k, ...).

Luckily, only names end in consonants, so this is not likely to be a problem.

> The same happens
> for sounding consonants before non-sounding.

For the most part, that is true in Lojban also, except in the case (which is
this case) that the second letter is m, n, l, or r.  It may be easier for
you if you unvoice the second letter also.

> And about "non-sounding before sounding", we have some examples in
> catalan, but they're very specific: "viatge" for example; that,
> lojbanized, is written "viAd,jy". I think we're not able to say
> "viAt,jy".

Fortunately, "tj" is not possible in Lojban.

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