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Re: [lojban] Re: {Archivist} niltei?



At 05:53 AM 11/19/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--- Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> > At 04:32 AM 11/18/03 -0800, Jorge "Llambías" wrote:
> > >
> > >Is the x1 of ni a klani or a se klani? The x1 of niltei should
> > >be of the same type.
> >
> > If one insists on jvajvo rules, I suppose so.  Maybe the byfy will get
> > around to answering the question, if it isn't obvious in the place
> > structure.  If there were no byfy, I would make a ruling; as it is, I 
> defer
> > to others.
>
>{klani} relates "measured"-"measurement"-"scale".
>
>x2 of {ni} is a scale. x1 of {ni} must then be the measurement,
>because having places for the measured thing and for the
>scale, but none for the measurement seems strange. I suppose
>then that the measured thing must somehow be glorked from the
>bridi and the context.

The thing measured by a ni predicate is the bridi contained in the 
ni.  We've been around this before, as to whether it measures ka bridi 
(with or without places marked with lambda), and I don't know where 
everyone else stands these days, and prefer to leave it to byfy to decide.

lojbab

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lojbab                                             lojbab@lojban.org
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
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