Re: [lojban] Re: Is srana symmetrical?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:47:27AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote:
> 
> --- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 06:10:23PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote:
> > > The tag {sera'a} is used much more frequently than plain
> > > {ra'a}. That at least would seem to suggest that {srana} is
> > > not symmetrical.
> > 
> > That is much more likely to be because the keyword for ra'a,
> > "pertained to by", is incredibly confusing.
> > 
> > I, for one, have no idea what it means, and have been avoiding
> > ra'a for that reason.
> 
> I think the idea of {srana} is that it means "x1 is about x2". 

I think that might be the case, but I think it might also mean "x1
is relevant to x2".

>     mi sanga sera'a le vi cukta
>     I sing about this book.
>     My singing is about this book.
> 
>     mi sanga ra'a le vi cukta
>     I sing "pertained to by" this book.
>     This book is about my singing. 

OK, that makes sense.

Can you think of a better phrase than "pertained to by" that doesn't
require re-arranging sentence order in the English translation?

-Robin

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