--- And Rosta <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk> wrote:"ti du le mi patfu" is malglico only when the speaker intends the meaning "ti patfu mi". When the speaker genuinely intends the meaning "ti du le mi patfu", it is not malglico. The malgliconess comes simply from meaning X but saying Y, because Y more closely resembles the we X is expressed in English.Right. On the other hand, "ti du lo patfu be mi" is synonymous with "ti patfu mi", as far as I can tell.
-- "American imperialism is, by definition, a retreat away from global capitalism, a retreat from the invisible hand of markets in favor of a more dominant role for the visible fist of governments," argued Paul McCulley, a managing director of PIMCO, the world's largest bond investment fund.