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Re: [lojban] Re: Lojbanic philosophy (Goetz & Craig)
xod wrote:
la_okus wrote:
la .go,ets. cusku di'e
Hi,
Transhumanism is a concept which is a bit too alien to me.
(I generally have difficulties with teleology and the dependence
on purposes.) There may be simpler reasons for interest in
Lojban.
[ . . . ]
About 10000 people play with Klingon, and that language really
Limits what you can express. Promote lojban as a toy. Playing
is
a good reason - because even if you don't can substantiate
that
It is a goot reasen you still have fun with playing.
Goetz
Would you consider yourself a hedonist (one whose purpose is
pleasure)? If so, wouldn't you consider that teleology? I'm not
interested in using philosophy to make lojban more attractive, but
possibly the other way around. At any rate, good ideas.
If Lojban can improve communication, and thought, then it should
certainly hold promise for philosophy. Also, learning Lojban for the
Sapir-Whorf benefits is indeed an extropian project. I'm not sure that
it will really work until there's at least one family that speaks it at
home. We don't seem to be able to get enough speech time for a dramatic
mental effect; a weekend is not enough immersion.
One advantage of philosophers using Lojban would be that it's
lujvo-building capabilites would mean that they wouldn't keep stretching
perfectly ordinary words into strange meanings ;-)
robin.tr, who has just been explaining that when Rousseau says "subject"
and "citizen", he means the same person wearing different hats, and that
a "city" can actually be smaller than a "town", and that a "prince" is
not the guy on the white horse who rescues the princess, and ...
--
"Caesar non supra grammaticos." - Suetonius
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin