[lojban] Re: Projects

["reverendzow" <reverendzow@yahoo.com>]

--- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Philip Newton <lojban-out@l...> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:52:33 -0000, reverendzow <reverendzow@y...> 
wrote:
> > Another possibility here is the use of radicals, esp. if 
CVC/CCV/CVV
> > are similarly equivalent.
> 
> Yes, I suppose - it would, in theory, be sufficient in writing to
> indicate "this is not the gismu {broda} but its rafsi"; the actual
> pronunciation could then be chosen at will. For example, the 
compound
> "rafsi-of-condi + rafsi-of-bloti" could be pronounced as any of 
coiblo
> (the "canonical" or default form due to the scoring rules), cnoblo,
> conblo, cnolo'i, conlo'i, coirlo'i, cnobloti, conbloti, condybloti,
> condylo'i, coirbloti, or condybloti (in ascending order of score).
> 
> On the other hand, any two adjacent gismu with the rafsi radical 
would
> combine to a lujvo, so you'd still have to mark which ones go 
together
> - since the five rafsi A B C D E could combine as the lujvo "ABCDE",
> or the tanru "ABC DE" or "AB CDE", each composed of two lujvo, and 
the
> notation I'm talking about can't distinguish between the two. (All
> three forms would be difference, since the tanru "A B" does not mean
> exactly the same thing as the lujvo "AB", though it'll often have 
that
> meaning as one of its possibilities.)
> 
> So just using a generic rafsi radical wouldn't be enough; you'd 
either
> have to have a glue marker or an unglue marker as well.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@g...>

Ah, but that's not what I meant about using radicals.  Any word which 
can be used directly in forming lujvo would -be- a radical;  
therefore, any single character which was composed of such radicals 
would be a lujvo or {X zei Y}.

Also, a lujvo-forming radical could be used instead of a "this is any 
one of my rafsi" radical, to indicate "the following and I are part 
of one lujvo."  This could have multiple versions if there are 
multiple, significantly different ways to form a lujvo.  Otherwise, I 
think a reciter of the {valsi zei lerfu} (vlaler, vlale'u, or what?) 
could pick which way to say it.

This is trying to be confusing right now.  Sleep; more post later.



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