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Re: [lojban] Re: The Lojban Wikipedia is up

Robin Lee Powell wrote:

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 06:46:45PM -0400, xod wrote:


Robin Lee Powell wrote:



I'm a lot less averse to metaphorical lujvo now that I've created a
whole bunch of them *complete* *with* *place* *structure*.  Doing so
makes it obvious that Lojban words are more defined by place
structure than keyword, and that anything that has the place you want
is The Right Choice.




I hear this often, touted as a profound observation, but what does it
mean? That we should pay attention to all the keywords instead of just
one?


It means that every single place is important, and that a brivla is a
relation between all those things, and that no subset of that can be
treated as the whole definition.



It really doesn't get us any further from the tyranny of the English Keyword. And the keywords do decrease in importance, as we go down the line, making the first one most important, so in isolation it is an approximation of the lujvo itself. The following keywords simply modify it.


I still think ralcku is asinine, though. mutmi'i I mind a lot less
than I used to, although I think it's rarely the best choice for
"software" (too broad).


Lujvo should focus primarily on use-function -- how it appears to the
user -- as opposed to technical precision.



As long as two lujvo are more-or-less the same number of syllables, I
*utterly* disagree.




It's like saying a pen is "a small cylinder with one messy end" instead of "like a pencil, only with ink". One is more literal, but the other is a whole lot more useful.


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