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Re: [lojban] Re: na scope. Again.



Jorge Llambías wrote:
--- robin.tr wrote:

Sorry, I meant "bridi". But it seems that if {mi e do na klama le zarci} means that neither I nor you go to the store, then what we are doing is modifying the brivla, i.e. we're saying "I and you do something other than go to the store" which is pretty much the same as saying {mi e do na'e klama le zarci}, isn't it?


{e}, like {na}, is a bridi operator.
We can apply first {e} and then {na}, or first {na} and then {e}.

Option 1:

  mi e do na klama le zarci
= naku mi e do na klama le zarci
= naku ge mi klama le zarci gi do klama le zarci
= ga mi na klama le zarci gi do na klama le zarci

Option 2:

  mi e do na klama le zarci
= ge mi na klama le zarci gi do na klama le zarci

In 1, {na} has scope over {e}. In 2, {e} has scope over {na}.
Option 2 does not say that you and I do something else to the store. It just says that I don't go there and you don't go there.



OK, I see what you mean now.

robin.tr


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