RE: [lojban] Lossless Lojban <--> English Converter?

["Ben Goertzel" <ben@goertzel.org>]

Nick --

 

No, and this would be a quite difficult project.  For some of my recent thoughts on this and related issues see

 

http://www.goertzel.org/new_research/lojban_AI.pdf

 

To make a long story short,

 

-- translating Lojban into weird, awkward, sometimes ungrammatical but basically comprehensible English is definitely a solvable problem, though requiring a moderate rather than trivial amount of work

 

-- translating Lojban into fully grammatical and elegant English would be quite hard

 

-- translating English into Lojban would be extremely difficult given the current (somewhat pitiful) state of computational linguistics and AI technology.  The right approach would be to create an interactive tool for doing this, and then have the tool learn from its mistakes so as to adaptively get better and better at translation.  I have written down some related thoughts at http://www.goertzel.org/new_research/LojLink.pdf

 

If any of y'all are seriously interested in working on this sort of thing I am definitely will to lend my (considerable, if I do say so ;-) knowledge of and experience with computational linguistics.  Unfortunately, however, I don't have time to do much hands-on work on such things these days.

 

--

 Ben Goertzel

www.goertzel.org

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org]On Behalf Of Nick LaForge
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:11 PM
To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lojban] Lossless Lojban <--> English Converter?

Hi,

Does there exist a computer program that can convert lojban text to
english text, and then back into the original lojban text without
changes? (And visa-versa).

I think this would be very useful for a project I envision, where data
is stored in lojban and converted into English only when an english
user needs to read it.  When the user inputs text, it would be
converted into lojban and stored, but when the user wants to read the
text, it needs to be converted back into english without change.

Thank you. :)

--
Nick LaForge
Mystic0






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