[lojban] Re: {X1 selbri X2} = {X2 se selbri X1}?

[Opi Lauma <opi_lauma@yahoo.com>]

> {melbi tavla} and {melbi se tavla} are tanru, and as
> such are ambiguous. 
> Now we can reason that {le se tavla} is an audience
> so {le melbi se tavla} 
> is a beautiful audience.


In the reference grammar the following is written:

9.10)    la tam. [cu] melbi tavla la meris.
    Tom beautifully-talks to Mary.

"beautifully" and "talks" are connected by "-", it
means that "beauty" is property of "talk". So I would
conclude that {le melbi tavla} is {beautiful speaker}
in the sense that he is beautiful as speaker, and in
the same way {le melbi se tavla} I would translate as
{beautiful audience}, BUT as earlier I would say that
beauty is a property of "being talked by", i.e. {X cu
le melbi se tavla} means that X is beautiful in being
talked, i.e. X is beautiful in doing nothing.



		
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