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Re: [lojban] Moscow, Petersburg
MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote:
>>/m?s'kwa/ is better, I think ({masKUAS.} or {mosKUAS.}, or rather
>>without the stress to make it look better (not sound). Even {myskuas.}).
>>The "o" is said to be pronounced "a" in schools, because they don't know
>> schwa and there is no letter for it, but it is a/o/?/?, or maybe ?
>>(for me, it is more open than schwa, but still not "a").
> My teachers and textbooks say that 'o' is pronounced as /o/ when stressed,
> and as /a/ when immediately before the stressed syllable, and as schwa
> elsewhere.
Well, they are so relaxed, that it should work automatically - I guess
it is the right way to pronounce "correctly".
You'd better not use [] in IPA for Russian, or you will spend much time
for details. ;-)
> I pronounce the capital as /maskVA/. No variant with a /w/ is appropriate.
> But I'm not a native speaker of Russian.
I'm in Moscow and I think "w" is better than "f" there. ji'a, there is
"f", but no "w" in Russian. In the past, English "w" was always
translated as "u", so "William" - "Uil'yam" ({u(')iliam})
> Leningrad. Only after the dissolution of the USSR in the 1990's did the name
> revert back to Sankt Peterburg.
I guess I remember that I noticed the last change. The channel #5 was
still called "Leningradskiy".
>>>And how widely variant are the dialects of the
>>>two cities (we should follow the local one, I
>>>suppose)?
>>
> Or the standard language for the whole country. Otherwise even people from
> that country might not recognize it if the local pronunciation is very
> different from the standard one.
The Moscow (approximation of the north and the south dialects) one
affects all others. But at South, "o" is always "o".
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