Re: [lojban] adverbs to indicate whose standard is used

[John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>]

The short first answer is know.  Lojban woudl
probably cover this need with tanru based
variously on words for personal or self, group,
and society -- with maybe a few more. There may
be something else buried in cmavo space
somewhere, but, if there is not, it is unlikely
we will add them, even though the idea looks
worth embodying.

--- Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:

> A friend of mine blogged the following:
> 
> "We need a couple of new adverbs (or maybe I
> just need to find existing
> ones) that indicate whose definition of a word
> we are using: our's, our
> subculture's, or society-at-large's. They need
> to be simple enough to insert
> comfortably into casual conversation; single
> syllable, and preferably not
> syllables that could be mistaken for other
> adverbs.
> 
> Why?
> 
>    1. I'd like to be able to say 'I like
> foo-bad girls' without stopping
>    to explain that by foo-bad, I mean girls
> that society-at-large labels as
>    bad. In this case, because they are sexually
> agressive, but that was implied
>    in the conversation.
>    2. There are lots of people out there with
> no idea that there's a
>    difference. Fundamentalism is built (in
> part) on this misunderstanding. If
>    the truth of it gets pushed into language
> itself, they'll have to fight a
>    lot harder to hide it.
> 
> Unfortunately, the 'foo' in reason 1 won't
> work; it's a metasyntactic
> variable, already in heavy circulation among
> geeks. And I can't think of any
> good ideas off the top of my head. Any ideas?"
> 
> The reason I'm sending this to the Lojban list
> is to ask, does Lojban
> contain this feature or anything remotely
> similar? What is the best way in
> Lojban, if any, to say what he is trying to
> say? If we provide a Lojban word
> or term for this that can be dropped into
> conversation, it might spread
> virally (who knows?) and anyone wondering about
> its etymology would probably
> find out about the existence of Lojban.
> -epkat
>