Re: [lojban] Re: {lo} down

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 09:16:58PM +0100, lojban@solipsys.co.uk
wrote:
> 
> >> For someone who basically left the lojban project 8 years or
> >> more ago because of this type of bickering 
> 
> > I'm curious to know, who are you?
> 
> Charles Babbage, in his essay "Decline of Science in England"
> wrote 
> 
>     " If a fact is to be established by testimony, anonymous
>     assertion is of no value; if it can be proved, by evidence to
>     which the public have access, it is of no consequence (for the
>     cause of truth) who produces it.  A matter of opinion derives
>     weight from the name which is attached to it; but a chain of
>     reasoning is equally conclusive, whoever may be its author. "

Is that relevant in some way?  He didn't say "I won't care what you
say until you prove you're worthy to say it", he simply said he was
curious.

> > I guess back then people joined up in order to have the kind of
> > conversation John and xorxes are having.
> 
> I think that is untrue.  I personally know 3 people who, after an
> initial expression of interest in the language, cited these
> exchanges - I can't call them discussions - as their reason for
> giving up.
> 
> It was the only reason ever given.

I've had similar experiences.

> > It is leaving the stage where the project is to develop the
> > language, and entering the stage where the project is to spread
> > the language and accumulate a huge corpus of texts.
> 
> And I am extemely pleased to see it doing so.  However, whence
> cometh the texts aimed at beginners, with easy grammar and easy
> vocabulary?  Your podcasts are superb, but horror novels using
> even mildly complex grammar and large vocabularies are not
> effective texts for beginners.

People write what they want to write.  If you want to see texts for
beginners, you should start writing them.

However, note that there really is a *large* amount of stuff out
there:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Texts+In+Lojban&bl

> And I *am* interested in the semantics of {lo}, and I would love
> to see a simple and elegant explanation thereof.

Is there something wrong with
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=How%20to%20use%20xorlo
?

-Robin

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