Re: ethos or ethnos?

[Bob LeChevalier-Logical Language Group <lojbab@xxxxxx.xxxx]

At 02:21 PM 5/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
>From: "Evgueni.Sklyanin" <esklyani@enslapp.ens-lyon.fr>
>
>coi rodo mi'e .evgenis.
>
>There are exactly 6 gismu in the current list whose definition includes the 
>word "ethos":
>
>budjo [ buj bu'o ] Buddhist
> x1 pertains to the Buddhist culture/religion/ethos in aspect x2 
> (cf. latna, lijda)
>
>dadjo [ daj ] Taoist
> x1 pertains to the Taoist culture/ethos/religion in aspect x2 
> (cf. lijda, jegvo)
>
>gugde [ gug gu'e ] country
> x1 is the country of peoples x2 with land/territory x3;
(people/territory 
>relationship) 
> [also sovereignty, domestic (as opposed to foreign), nation (when not 
>referring to ethos)]; (cf. turni, natmi, jecta, tumla, tutra, lanci)
>
>kulnu [ klu ] culture
> x1 [mass of ideas, customs, skills, arts] is culture of nation/ethos x2 
>(mass); x1 is ethnic 
> [(note that x2 is NOT individual; culture is what is shared among people 
>and is not an individual trait)]; (cf. cmavo list ka'u, cmavo list ku'u,
natmi,
>cecmu)
>
>slovo [ lov lo'o ] Slavic
> x1 reflects Slavic language/culture/ethos in aspect x2 
> (cf. softo, rusko, vukro)
>
>
>I suspect that in the definitions of {gugde}, {kulnu} and {slovo} 
>the word "ethos" should be changed to "ethnos".
>
>According to WordNet:
>
>ethos n : the distinctive spirit of a people or an era; "the Greek ethos" 
>
>ethnos n : people of the same race or nationality who share a distinctive 
>culture [syn: {ethnic group}] 

My dictionary does not even have the word "ethnos" but rather lists only
the synonym, and included culture along with spirit for "ethos". This may
be Americanism to include ethnicity of a culture under "ethos".

Note that all the examples of gismu where I used "ethos", it is pertaining
to the ideas of some group of people that are linked by that shared
culture, rather than by political/governmental ties, and for the most part
I was dealing with multinational cultures. I doubt that followers of
Buddhism could be consider an ethnic group or as you equate it, "ethnos",
but they do share some commonalty of culture and ideas, which fits your
definition of "ethos".

lojbsb
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