Re: How to paint

["Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@xxxxxx.xxxx]

At 06:38 AM 9/26/99 +0000, Zeno wrote:
>From: zeno@deltanet.com (Zeno)
>I have the lists from the following sites:
> http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/gismu
> http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/cmavo
> http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/lujvo-list
>
>I have learned what most of the fields in the records are, but I have
>some questions, and I wonder if anyone can help me. I have the
>following definitions from the lujvo-list and gismu files:
>
> cintyfaigau:cinta+fatri+gasnu:to paint something:$gasnu1 $fatri1
> $=cinta1 $fatri2
>
> cinta paint
> x1 [material] is a paint of pigment/active substance x2, in a base
> of x3 a 6 (cf. pixra, skari)
>
> fatri fai distribute
> x1 is distributed/allotted/allocated/shared among x2 with
> shares/portions x3; (x2/x3 fa'u) 8c 22 [also spread,
> shared out, apportioned; agentive distribution (= fairgau,
> fairzu'e)]; (cf. cmavo list fa'u, fendi, preja, katna, tcana)
>
> gasnu gau do
> x1 [person/agent] is an agentive cause of event x2;
> x1 does/brings about x2 2e 142 (cf. cmavo
> list gau, gunka, zukte, rinka, fasnu for non-agentive events,
> jibri, kakne, pilno)
>
>For cintyfaigau, I assume the sumti are not taken from gasnu, but are
>the doohickeys listed with dollar signs after the definition, which
>would make the sumti x1 from gasnu x1, x2 from fatri x1, x3 from cinta
>x1, and x4 from fatri x2. Can anyone tell me what the equals sign
>means on x3 ($=cinta1)?

The dollar signs are not separators indicating a new sumti, but were 
markers for computer processing of the entries if I recall. The equal sign 
means that this semantic role fills the same place as the previous sumti, 
so there are only 3 places on the lujvo.

The lujvo-list file was the original work done by Nick Nicholas back in 
1994. I oughta someday get the working dictionary file uploaded. It has 
much clearer text:

cintyfaigau:cinta+fatri+gasnu:to paint something: x1 = gasnu1 (do), x2 = 
fatri1 (distributed) = cinta1 (paint), x3 = fatri2 (receive share)

If it is already there (possible since I am not actively maintaining our 
archive and have no idea what is and is not uploaded these days) the file 
is jvoste1.key

lojbab


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