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Re: [lojban] RECORD: lojban web sites and related matters
At 04:54 AM 04/21/2000 -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
In addition to the all-Lojban chat at 2451657.46-.58 at EFNet#lojban
there are a Lojban Web Ring centered at
http://decadezero.org/lojban_webring.html
go to this site and click on the link to join
Note that you "join" a webring when you have a web page about Lojban that
you wish to add to the ring. You can use that address just to see what
sites are on the ring. All of the major Lojban sites are on the ring and
therefore have links to other sites on the ring.
a site http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/hezekiah/lojban which has either been
taken down or soon will be but which can be mined for useful material
It is down, but Evguenie Sklyanin's pages (of which there is a copy on the
official site, points to a replacement that has what I believe is a mirror
of the complete contents.
A summary of Web sites really needs to identify Sklyanin's pages and note
that they point to many many more than you've listed here.
I also think that Veijo's Helsinki site belongs on even a short summary
list. Some have said that they prefer it to the official site, and it has
mostly of the same materials, though some in perhaps more pleasing formats.
the official web pages, at www.lojban.org, revised in mid february and tweaked
occasionally since (the parser may still be out of date).
parser3.zip under files/software/parser is the current parser executable
for MS-DOS. I don't think we have source up for that parser (which can be
compiled for other systems); at least John Cowan never told me that he put
it up (I asked him to), so the roadmap file is inaccurate in saying it is.
in the main software directory, gloss3-2.zip also has the parser for MS-DOS
bundled with the Glosser. This is also an MS-DOS program, but no one has
reported how poorly it runs under emulatation.
I will note in passing that Nora has been working this week on finally
getting a new version of LogFlash 2, which teaches the rafsi and
lujvo-making in a manner similar to LogFlash 1 (gismu) and LogFlash 3
(cmavo). The original version has not worked since we completely changed
the gismu list from the TLI Loglan format back in 1989, and has been low
priority because until recently, I was the only one who had ever used it or
seemed interested enough in LogFlash to use it. Now that we have had a few
people complete LogFlash 1, there is a reasonable justification for the
time it is taking her to get it updated. She may have a beta version for
people to play with as early as the end of this weekend, but no
promises. This will be a DOS TurboPascal program like the other LogFlash
versions. She has toyed with the idea of redoing the programs in Visual
Basic, but that is a major undertaking just as would be any other system
port, as pc mentioned above.
The programs given are all very MSDOS and have not bee successfully
translated to other system (but attempts are welcomed).
LogFlash has been made to run under emulation on other systems. As noted
above, i don't know about the glosser or other programs.
Most wishlist items for this site need to be generated
by those who want them, as lojbab is tied up with other things.
Yes!!!
(the old sites at columbia,edu seem totally defunct)
Yes. Likewise Yale.
an archive of list traffic at
http://www.topcities.com/Arts/bugathlon/lojban.html 11000 messages, 36M
of text, threaded and linked, up to date to at least mid
February
I think that the merged egroups/onelist site now has a good threaded and
linked HTML list probably as good as this one at least for the period it
covers; no idea on relative speeds. What is needed is a replacement
downloadable by month text archive. The last two years on the Lojban
official site was built from the data on the onelist and egroups premerger
data that was also used to make the topcities site mentioned above, but the
unmerged data showed some missing messages in each archive, so a several
megabytes of space is tied up in having two files for each month. A
volunteer who will create a new set of files for the period covered by the
egroups archive is wanted. I suggest transferring the files to me using
the egroups file space for Lojban List.
a dictionary in HTML at : http://www.dria.de/lojban/
and, of course, jbosnu@onelist.com (does that have to be @egroup.com?),
the
lojban-only mail list
Yes, all "onelist" should now be egroups, though the old address will
forward indefinitely so don't worry if you use the old one.
lojbab
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