> I still get pissed off by the fact that BBC announcers can't > pronounce "Beijing" though! Don't they say /beI'dZIN/? And isn't that the closest one can get to the Chinese in RP phonology? To my ears, it is. (Ahhh! I get it. You mean they say /beI'ZIN/? Yes, that pisses me off mightily, too. Smug BBC fuckers. > co'o mi'e robin./rabn. or, for me, robn