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Re: [lojban] Some remarks from a beginner
fchauvet@aol.com wrote:
1) [...] How can you keep a "natural" structure? I
mean, "focus" first, then the other parameters?
Using se, te, etc. changes the form of the central relation.
Using fa, fe, fi, etc. allows you to rearrange arguments
at will.
2) The idea of a (potentially) four-dimensional referential seems
nonsense to me, at least until mankind be able to time-travel.
What about aspect, which is a purely timelike structure? With a 4D
referential, you should have the notions of "beginning", "continuing"
and "ending" in space as well as in time.
We do. Using fe'e in front of an aspect particle makes it
a space aspect particle.
3) I've been (pleasantly) striked by the fact that there are about
2,000 gismu. [...] [I]s it a consequence of the "mankindness"
of Lojban conceptors?
Yes. The list evolved from 1955 to 1995, roughly, being added to
over time. Unnecessary terms were removed once in 1988.
4) [...] When reading, signs such as semicolon, colon,
interrogation, and so on, do replace the mimics or intonation of
the locutor. Why not use them, even if unnecessary in spoken language?
You are free to use punctuation marks (other than . and ,)
as additions to the text proper. For example, a question may
end with a ? if you like; another approach is to prefix it
to the question word itself.
a) Is there a "thematic" gismu dictionary? I mean, most gismu's fit into
families with the
same place structure: x1 is an animal of species <gismu>, x1 is made of
<material>, ...
See http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/roget . The codes correspond
to the divisions of Roget's Thesaurus, the standard English-language
thematic dictionary, available online at
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg/etext91/roget15a.txt
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> not) : you normally grasp several lines at a glance, and then
mentally parse them. This is why line- or word- breaks are not a
difficulty.
You are free to use punctuation marks (other than . and ,)
as additions to the main text. For example, a question may
end with a ? if you like; another approach is to prefix it
to the question word itself.
a) Is there a "thematic" gismu dictionary? I mean, most gismu's fit
into families with the same place structure: x1 is an animal of
species <gismu>, x1 is made of <material>, ... This would greatly
help in learning Lojban. I started to compile one, but I do not
have enough time.
See
b) It http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/roget
seems that Lojban's grammar is regularly updated (although it
essentially remains the same). What is the way to be kept informed
about these evolutions?
Thank you all, and happy new year (should be Year I of my reign, but
my doctor said I am *not* paranoid) :-)
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There is / one art || John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com
to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein