| In a message dated 3/1/2001 6:11:46 PM Central Standard Time,
jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: >.i su'a nandu fa le za'i traji ke smuni kakne sepi'o la lojban Not that I can take my own advice, but, after slogging through this thread today, even with considerable mechanical help (the MSDOS jbofihe just can't take it but the accompanying glosser is very handy), I would recommend that we all (or most of us anyhow) go back to "See Spot run" and work our way up very slowly before we get around to doing to philosophical or linguistic discussions in Lojban. There was scarcely a line in all this free from grammatical or intentional or vocabulary errors, which makes it very hard to read -- especially if you miss one of the intentional errors and so get off on the wrong notion of what was meant or guess the wrong correction for a word. Lojban has almost zip redundancy, so each little error adds incrementally to a total mess. From my point of view -- but that is about my vocabulary and my own writing style -- a good move would be to drop all the attitudinals and discursives for a while. They do clutter the message and they seem to get misused more often that content words (and are also the tightest piece of the vocabulary, small error make huge differences). They are semantic ciphers, so nothing will be lost (and some folk may be forced to actually use the brivla that they mean when they use them). Oh, throw in the non-spatiotemporal tenses and most of the connectives while you're about it. And put in subjects, the absence of which can create a monstrous boggle a few lines later. |