I should add that thanks to pc & John I now understand DJUNO better, &
I don't think there's a conflict between what I said above and the actual
meaning of DJUNO. If I say "mi djuno ko'a (fo zo'e)", I'm essentially claiming
that you can only dispute ko'a if you argue that the ve djuno is invalid.
This would contrast with KRICI, where if I say "mi krici ko'a" I am
allowing that
you may arbitrarily and without reason not krici ko'a, and with JINVI, where
if I say "my jinvi ko'a" I am allowing that you might not jinvi ko'a, but
if you
don't then it is susceptible to quasirational discussion in which we
eventially
out to *converge* on a se jinvi..