| Somewhere recently xorxes noted that "know" at least has the peculiarity that
to say someonne does not know x implies that x is true as much as to say that someone does know x. He noted correctly that this does not carry over to {djuno}, since {na djuno} literally gives the disjunction of the denials of the conjunctive components of {djuno}, one of which is that the claimed knowledge is true. So he proposed {toldjuno} for the corresponding _expression_. I canot remember (nor find) whetehr he specificed its English, but it should be "x1 is ignorant of x2 about x3 in epistemology x4." It also has the condition that x2 is true in x4, like {djuno}: x1 toldjuno x2 x3 x4 .ijo ge x1 na djuno x2 x3 x4 gige da djuno x2 x3 x4 gi x1 djuno de di x4 |