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Re: [lojban] RE: Grammar Clarifications



In a message dated 5/30/2001 9:44:33 AM Central Daylight Time,
jcowan@reutershealth.com writes:


Essentially that there was no way of representing what
"me" means now, whereas what "me" used to mean is just
"steci be" = "pertains to".

Yes, this is what I thought I recalled.  Except that {steci be} does not do
justice to the first use JCB gave to it (though it surely passed through this
in the traditional JCB path from light to miasma):  The first two uses were
{ti me la Kraislr karce} (translating to Lojban, I hope) and {la loglan se
kevna lo me zo me} "There is a me-shaped hole in Loglan"  (JCB inevitably
thought this the cleverest use of "me," and it does have a charm).  The point
is that {me} was originally about words and their application to things or,
rather, the things they were applied to, not about the referents of the
expressions that followed the {me}.  The phenomenon intended is common enough
to deserve a cheap means (and {me} now seems virtually useless, given {du}
and other ordinary features).